Great Dialogue on Beingness

People say "I want peace." If we remove I (ego), and want (desire), all that is left is peace.

-- Satya Sai Baba

• Ron Alexander Also, you have to be ready to have nothing and be nobody or as St. Francis said '' it is In dying to the self that we are born to. Eternal Life!'' Are you ready?

   
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  Gerlinde Rosensteiner We must just live it.

   
• Ron Alexander Also, you need to leave your body and probably this Earth, for as long as we inhabit both we need an ego and will have wants-desires. The Buddhists call the no-self emptiness or nothingness and There Bliss - Nirvana is attained. Again, one must be ready to give up everything!
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  Eric Gibson Beautiful Ron!!Thank-you :))

   
• Ron Alexander You are welcome Dear Eric Gibson. I have touched upon these places in prayer/meditation and near death, and there is no fear, nothing matters, timelessness and true peace!

   
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  Eric Gibson Amen!

   
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  Cheryl Bell If we see peace ,we remove the I and the want.We see the true nature of each soul that is hidden behind the masks of pretence .Leaving behind past judgements and future fears ,living in the nothingness of our past perception. Acceppting everyone and everything as God's divine order knowing all is in perfect alinement in Heaven as it is on Earth .Within this space there is nothing lacking and no seperation as Heaven lives within us on Earth <3 span="">

   
• Ron Alexander ''Nothing matters'' to me means ''impersonal'' -  ''...nothing effects one .- not personal- also goes along with the best things in life are not things!"
 
• Ron Alexander Thanks for this DIALOG Eric - so much better than discussing - ''dissing and cussing''!

   
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  Eric Gibson Yeah,I get tired of cursing and dissing too,lol!!bless you Ron!!!

   
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  Rosaland R. Robello Love this....so nothingness is everythingness...Enjoyed reading all of the above. When we are in that state of Peace, Joy, Feeling Happy all else fades away in the now we don't need to read allot of books, have gurus...it is in the recognizing that feeling when we are in that state of peace just stay there...:) no matter what is going on around us...Love You all namaste...<3 span="">

   
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  Will Matheny I like the belief that instead of giving up everything, we are preparing to receive everything relating to our completion and attainment of the human being. This world is not the truth of what being means, it is our goad, our teacher by fire, purifying our motivation to "Being" the person of a Son of our Originator. It occurrs to me that BEING in that sense, is what Ron above wrote- " Nirvana" - Would that be the highest most compliment to our Father in that we fully comply with the Love of God (Yahweh, Jehovah) by means of the instrumentality of Jesus the Christ?
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  Ron Alexander W0W (Words Of Wisdom) - thanks for the affirmative and wise responses Rosaland and Will!

   Gratitude to Cheryl Bell's cogent response also - Will Matheny, when I mentioned "Nirvana", I was speaking of the Buddha's experience of the "end of suffering" - the nothingness, the emptiness - a vast space of bliss. The nearest Christian version of it would be "the Kingdom of God on Earth". Buddha said we had to experience this ourselves, so Jesus Christ, though I love Jesus, was not the "instrumentality" there. The Buddha took no credit either and considered himself just a teacher. I do believe that in St. Francis Prayer "...it is in dying to the self, that we are born to Eternal Life", is equivalent to "it is in dying to the 'ego/body', that we are born to "Nirvana" or "Heaven". We can have these experiences momentarily on Earth, however to fully experience them I think we have to leave this planet and our bodies to Spirit. Also, I think St. Francis's Prayer is very similar to the Bodhisattva Vow.
• Bodhisattva Vow. Whatever is the highest of the human mind and heart, I will realize it for the benefit of all that lives. Buddha
• St. Francis Prayer - "Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace, where there is hatred let me sow love..."
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  Will Matheny Good solid material here everyone. Thank you Ron. By your last statement, at least you DO agree that Jesus (as he prayed often to DO his Father's will) is an instrumentality of "Thy" peace, of "Thy" understood as the Highest personage, or came out from the spirit realm sent from "He Causes To Be" as the source of our aspirations. Jesus thus able to set the example of sacrificing one's ego-centric life in serving the will of Jehovah, his God and Father, he thus portrayed the model of honoring His Father, and in turn honoring one another. Our model - instrumentality of anyone called to service of the Creator, will produce in each disciple its intended purpose "....for the benefit of all that lives." .... be the peace you seek ....
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  Ron Alexander Wonderfully said Will - thanks for your heartfelt response. I consider Jesus's three love commandments as some of the most inspirational words in Christianity. Buddhist Teachers that I know agree that Jesus was The Teacher of Love! By the way, even though I practice a Buddhist meditation, I don't consider myself a Buddhist and I am a Christian based more on the New Testament than the Old Testament. I have trouble and do not believe in a condemning God or a God that has to be praised. Unity is my favorite church which I attend fairly regularly!